I thank the witnesses for joining us today. Their expertise will improve our study, and it will help us write a better report.
Mr. Ghai, I even think you were upset during your testimony. In any case, I was touched. You talked to us about glaring examples of racism. However, IRCC is saying those are unconscious biases. I think there is a difference between an unconscious bias and racism.
A previous witness told us that a cat should be called a cat, even if it creates discomfort, and that there was racism at IRCC. So I would like to know whether there is indeed racism at IRCC or just unconscious biases, in your opinion.