Fair enough.
Are there any other witnesses who have expertise on that point? If not, maybe we could ask future witnesses. I don't want to put anyone on the spot. If people want, they can follow up in writing on that as well.
To the folks at the Rainbow Refugee group, my understanding is that many refugees who come do so through the joint sponsorship mechanism, which is something that I think works very well. It brings together the involvement of private sponsors but it also reduces the burden on them by having government money come to the table, and when you have private or joint sponsorship that provides an opportunity for those sponsoring organizations to advocate and work with individuals who may be experiencing discrimination.
Can you speak to the joint sponsorship model and how you have found it to work in practice?