Thank you, Mr. Seeback.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you to the witnesses.
Mr. Ramos, I was really intrigued through this broader discussion of the economic benefits of non-economic immigration categories. It's sort of odd, in some ways, the way we think about immigration, which is that we have the economic stream for economic benefit and then we have the family stream and we have the refugee stream. Each of them have clear, specific benefits, but I don't know that we've discussed enough or acknowledged the fact that one category can also achieve objectives in another category. You can have a refugee who comes for economic reasons but is also seeking refuge, and how those things go together.
I wonder if you would build on your comments about the economic benefits of parents and grandparents. Are there specific determinants that lead to some individuals providing more economic benefit than others? Could we be thinking bigger about hybrid categories that draw on benefits in multiple streams instead of just thinking you're either in one stream or another?