I have not done a formal investigation, but from what I have heard, I would say that these people are at an impasse—that is, they have no other choice. As another witness said, if these people are risking their lives by going through these roads even in winter when the conditions are harsh, it is because they have no other choice. What we need to understand is that the people who take—
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