Evidence of meeting #47 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was appear.
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5:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid
Thank you.
I see no further speakers on the list....
Yes, Ms. Lalonde.
5:10 p.m.
Liberal
Marie-France Lalonde Liberal Orléans, ON
As a proud francophone, I don't think this was translated by our translation services. But I fully understand that my colleague did it on the spot and in this way. We really like this motion.
I am still having a little bit of trouble understanding the meaning of my colleague's friendly amendment when he says:
“so appropriate measures can be taken”.
I was just wondering if it would be possible to have both the French and English versions emailed to us before we vote on this motion.
5:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid
Ms. Lalonde, thanks for raising that. The clerk has already sent it to translation. I'm not sure if we'll receive it before 5:30 p.m.
Yes, Ms. Rempel Garner.
5:10 p.m.
Conservative
Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
On a point of order, Chair, for the purposes of debate and voting, per our Standing Orders, translation counts when an amendment or a motion is read, because we do have simultaneous translation. I understand that it's preferable to have it written, but part of the function of this committee is to amend motions. That's why we debate. I would say that there's no reason we can't proceed.
Thank you.
5:10 p.m.
Liberal
Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Surrey—Newton, BC
Thank you, Madam Chair.
As Madam Michelle Rempel Garner has said, the motion has come and amendments have come. Why don't we just read the complete motion slowly so that the translation is done and the members who are French-speaking can know it? They should be able to understand clearly what they are voting on. I think it's perfectly fine.
5:10 p.m.
Liberal
Marie-France Lalonde Liberal Orléans, ON
I would like to thank the interpreters who are going to interpret it for reading it slowly, but I would still like to have the French version. I am still trying to figure out what my colleague Mr. Redekopp means in the following passage, and I will say it in English, for lack of a translation:
“so appropriate measures can be taken”.
I'm trying to figure out what he means by that.
5:10 p.m.
Bloc
Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC
I can translate right now. He is asking that appropriate action be taken.
5:10 p.m.
Liberal
Marie-France Lalonde Liberal Orléans, ON
I'm trying to understand. What kind of action should the committee members take? I would like him to explain why he wants to put that in his motion.
5:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid
Just to clarify, from what I read, what we can do is report to the House. Then it is up to the House to decide. As a committee, the maximum we can do is report to the House. That's what we can do. Then it is up to the House to take a decision. Once we report to the House, we cannot do further on that.
Ms. Kwan—
5:10 p.m.
NDP
Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC
All right. I just want to test this very quickly on the floor: Are we ready to vote on the main motion?
5:10 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid
Can we please have one conversation at a time? If you want, I can suspend.
We are coming to the end of the meeting. Right now, procedurally we have the amendment that has been moved by Mr. Redekopp. If it is not taken as a friendly amendment, we will have to vote on the amendment. Then we will go back to the main motion.
So right now we have an amendment on the floor that has been moved by Mr. Redekopp. That's where we are.
5:15 p.m.
NDP
Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC
Madam Chair, I'm just trying to get a sense here and to test the floor on whether we're ready to vote on the motion. If we're ready to vote on the motion, I can dispense—
5:15 p.m.
NDP
Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC
I understand that. On the amendment and the motion, if we're ready to vote, I think we can stop the discussion and move forward. If we're going to keep on talking about this, then other actions may need to be taken.
I just want to test the floor. Perhaps we can suspend for one minute. I would like to talk to my Liberal colleagues to see where they are.
5:15 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid
Ms. Kwan, can you please read the motion? I think that's what the members are looking for. Can you read the motion slowly, so that everyone is clear? Once you read the motion, we will have Mr. Redekopp read the amendment. Then we can proceed further.
Go ahead, Ms. Kwan.
5:15 p.m.
NDP
Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC
I move “That the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration”—
5:15 p.m.
NDP
Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC
I move:
that the committee invite the Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Minister of National Defence and the Minister of Justice and Attorney General to appear before the committee for two hours with their officials, consistent with the Afghan motion passed on October 7, 2022, by the committee; and if the ministers do not accept the invitation by Friday, February 3, 2023, that the matter be reported to the House.