It's very clear, Madam Chair, from your deliberation, that the ministers were not given open days. They were given specific dates and probably less than two weeks' notice. It's very reasonable that we should give ministers open days for all those meetings. Give them to all the ministers and see which minister can fit them into their schedule instead of just going to one and then waiting for them to reject it.
We would not have this issue here in this committee if we had handled it that way. I think we should certainly give ministers leeway to put this into their schedule. I'm certain that they will be very happy to appear.