I have two other people on the speaking list, but before we go to Mr. Dhaliwal, I want to ask the members a question.
At the beginning, we decided to go for five minutes in camera to discuss what Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe would like to do. The committee will end at 5:38 p.m.—we started the meeting at 3:38 p.m.—and I want to know if members would like to go in camera or proceed with this discussion now.
No...? Okay. We'll proceed with this.
Mr. Dhaliwal, you are next on the speaking list.