On this point, what I want to know.... Just hearkening back to what our colleague Mr. Kmiec disclosed at the last meeting, there were specific numbers that would have been related to the amendments as they were presented. To my colleague Ms. Kwan, I think that's what we're getting at here. Somebody doesn't come up with numbers like that with a crystal ball. They came from somewhere, and I think that's what we're trying to get at with this.