On that note, the employer of course has the choice not to just stick with the minimum wage. They can offer higher wages right off the top, and not just go with the minimum wage requirement. I certainly support minimum wages going up. People cannot live on minimum wages, and that is absolutely the reality.
On the open work permit question as well, right now the government actually allows people to get an open work permit if they're subject to abuse, and that's after they have already experienced the abuse. You don't see people fleeing the sector. I have known workers who have been subjected to abuse, and with the help of the union, particularly the UFCW, they have gone to other employers, who were not abusing them, and stayed in the sector. These workers want to work. They want to make a good living to support themselves and their families.
On the notion of an open work permit, the idea that we have to hold on to an environment so they cannot leave, with a sectoral open work permit or a closed work permit, isn't that, in and of itself, part of the abuse of the system?