First of all, I would like to respond to Mr. Godin's comment.
We've increased our targets to 8%. The Conservatives, on the other hand, did nothing for the entire time they were in power. When the Conservatives were in power, the targets were close to 2% or 3%. So I find it a bit ridiculous to be lectured about this.
My answer to MP Kmiec is as follows.
We will have to have a discussion about what that pathway to permanent residency is for Ukrainians who wish to stay. Currently, we have some geopolitical considerations, as you well know, with respect to the permanence of those people who are here—who are well over 200,000. There is, as you mentioned, a pathway for people seeking permanent residency, but the general expectation is that those people will return to rebuild Ukraine once the war is won. That is a reality, and it is one that is not without geopolitical consequences if we decide to expand permanent residency currently. There are pathways, but are they sufficient? I think time will tell. There is a point where Canada will have to make additional considerations, but we aren't prepared as a country to do that now.