Evidence of meeting #35 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was seekers.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Johnston  Councillor, City of Calgary, As an Individual
Bercovitch Sadinsky  Vice-President, Canadian Association of Refugee Lawyers
Sreenivasan  Co-Executive Director, Canadian Council for Refugees
Scott  Assistant Deputy Minister, Social Programs, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Hollmann  Director General, Asylum Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

The Vice-Chair Bloc Alexis Deschênes

Mr. Joseph, you have the floor. I'm sorry about that.

Natilien Joseph Liberal Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC

That's fine.

I will let Ms. Scott continue.

12:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Social Programs, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Catherine Scott

For a while, the department used hotels to house asylum seekers when there was a very high volume of claims and increased pressure on shelters in municipalities and in the province of Quebec. However, that program ended on October 1, 2025. As a result, the department no longer has hotels to house asylum seekers. The funding is provided to municipalities through the interim housing assistance program.

Natilien Joseph Liberal Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC

Thank you.

Now, I'd like you to tell me about regionalization.

Does your department see this approach as a potential solution to better meet intake needs and, beyond that, integration needs?

12:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Social Programs, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Catherine Scott

Thank you for the question.

Yes, increasing the regionalization of asylum seekers is a very intriguing avenue. First of all, communities must have the capacity to take in asylum seekers. As I mentioned, we signed agreements with New Brunswick and Newfoundland and Labrador, precisely to see if this model could work well. What matters is that asylum seekers, when they arrive in a host community, can find a job. The models we have put in place facilitate—

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

I have a point of order. The English interpretation is not catching up with the French.

The Vice-Chair Bloc Alexis Deschênes

You're having trouble following the debate, is that right?

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

Maybe the witness could speak a little more slowly.

The Vice-Chair Bloc Alexis Deschênes

Would you like the interpreter to speak more slowly or the witness to speak more slowly?

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

With respect, Chair, I can't even hear you because the interpretation is a little slow right now.

The Vice-Chair Bloc Alexis Deschênes

Then, we will ask the interpreters to raise their voices and try to follow the debate, so that we can continue.

I remind you that we have about six minutes left in the meeting and that each point of order prevents us from hearing from the witnesses.

Ms. Scott, the floor is yours.

12:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Social Programs, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Catherine Scott

As I mentioned, what matters is that asylum seekers can be supported in their search for employment and housing. It's an intriguing model that we want to explore.

Natilien Joseph Liberal Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC

In Quebec and the regions, we are experiencing an unprecedented labour shortage. There are asylum seekers who congregate in major cities, such as Montreal, with an open work permit.

Do you think that regionalization within the provinces, for example in Quebec, would be just as effective? Based on what I heard earlier, there may already be a dispute among the provinces that say they don't want it.

12:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Social Programs, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Catherine Scott

I would like a clarification: Are you talking about regionalization within Quebec?

Natilien Joseph Liberal Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC

Yes. I could have talked about New Brunswick, but I'm a Quebecker.

12:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Social Programs, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Catherine Scott

There has certainly been enormous pressure on the greater Montreal area in recent years with the arrival of asylum seekers. I think that's exactly why the department has issued open work permits: It allows asylum seekers to seek employment not only in the city where they're being welcomed, but also across the country, if they so choose.

We know that asylum seekers are incredibly talented. We've seen asylum seekers integrating into health services, manufacturing and the service sector, for example. I think that shows the importance of the open work permit, which allows—

Natilien Joseph Liberal Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC

Since I only have a few seconds left, I'd like to ask you one last question.

If I understand correctly, asylum seekers can make an invaluable contribution to the vitality of our economy, can't they?

12:45 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Social Programs, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Catherine Scott

Yes, that's correct. The Parliamentary Budget Officer's report actually showed that asylum seekers do their part and pay federal and provincial taxes.

The Vice-Chair Bloc Alexis Deschênes

Thank you very much, Ms. Scott. Unfortunately, that's all the time the member had left.

I now have the floor for two and a half minutes.

Mr. Hollmann, I'm interested in the legality of the current agreements you have signed with Newfoundland and Labrador and New Brunswick. Through these agreements, as I understand it, these provinces have voluntarily agreed to open their doors. It's a small thing, but it's a start.

Do asylum seekers who are relocated have to consent and volunteer?

12:45 p.m.

Director General, Asylum Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Jason Hollmann

Yes, exactly. Under this model, asylum seekers volunteer to move to another location.

The Vice-Chair Bloc Alexis Deschênes

So far, how does it work when this option is presented to asylum seekers?

12:45 p.m.

Director General, Asylum Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Jason Hollmann

I think many of them were housed in hotels. That was organized by the department. We spoke with them and presented them with this offer, and they wanted to seize the opportunity to move to those provinces.

The Vice-Chair Bloc Alexis Deschênes

Ms. Scott, you mentioned the results, but I wrote down the figures wrong.

How many asylum seekers have agreed to move to the Maritimes?

12:45 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Social Programs, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Catherine Scott

Thank you for the question.

So far, 290 people have done so.

The Vice-Chair Bloc Alexis Deschênes

Was it easy to communicate with those 290 people?