Evidence of meeting #50 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 39th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was consultation.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Council Chief John Beaucage  Anishinabek Nation - Union of Ontario Indians
Grand Chief RoseAnne Archibald  Nishnawbe Aski Nation
David Schulze  Lawyer, Hutchins, Caron & Associés, Barreau du Québec
Nicole Dufour  Lawyer, Research and Legislation Service, Barreau du Québec

12:50 p.m.

Nishnawbe Aski Nation

Deputy Grand Chief RoseAnne Archibald

Yes, across Canada there are probably core values that we can agree on. Are we the same? No, we're not.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Rod Bruinooge Conservative Winnipeg South, MB

Going back to previous words that you used, you talked about the pre-colonial moment as having a value system that was perhaps better. Maybe you didn't use the word “better”. I'll let you describe that pre-colonial moment.

12:50 p.m.

Nishnawbe Aski Nation

Deputy Grand Chief RoseAnne Archibald

I'm sorry, I don't quite understand.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Rod Bruinooge Conservative Winnipeg South, MB

How did you describe it? I know you talked about the pre-colonial moment in previous testimony. Could you describe it again?

12:55 p.m.

Nishnawbe Aski Nation

Deputy Grand Chief RoseAnne Archibald

Yes. I see it as valuable. It's something that can be brought into the present so as to be beneficial to all people, not only for us but for all Canadians.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Rod Bruinooge Conservative Winnipeg South, MB

Are you saying it's a better system, the pre-colonial system?

12:55 p.m.

Nishnawbe Aski Nation

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Rod Bruinooge Conservative Winnipeg South, MB

It's not a better system. Is it a worse system?

12:55 p.m.

Nishnawbe Aski Nation

Deputy Grand Chief RoseAnne Archibald

I'm not saying that either. You're trying to be quantitative.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Rod Bruinooge Conservative Winnipeg South, MB

I'm only getting you to define it.

12:55 p.m.

Nishnawbe Aski Nation

Deputy Grand Chief RoseAnne Archibald

No, you can't be quantitative about values.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Rod Bruinooge Conservative Winnipeg South, MB

Is it the same, better, or worse?

12:55 p.m.

Nishnawbe Aski Nation

Deputy Grand Chief RoseAnne Archibald

I can't be quantitative about values. All I can tell you is they can be beneficial to us.

We're not saying let's go back to the past and live there. We're saying let's bring forward those things that can help us to live peacefully in this country, because we want the same things that everybody wants.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Rod Bruinooge Conservative Winnipeg South, MB

You want to bring forward the good values from that period.

12:55 p.m.

Nishnawbe Aski Nation

Deputy Grand Chief RoseAnne Archibald

Yes, we can bring them forward.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Rod Bruinooge Conservative Winnipeg South, MB

But we should only bring forward the good values.

12:55 p.m.

Nishnawbe Aski Nation

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Rod Bruinooge Conservative Winnipeg South, MB

Okay. We agree on that.

Perhaps there are also bad values that were associated with the pre-colonial period?

12:55 p.m.

Nishnawbe Aski Nation

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Rod Bruinooge Conservative Winnipeg South, MB

Do you not know?

12:55 p.m.

Nishnawbe Aski Nation

Deputy Grand Chief RoseAnne Archibald

I can't speak to bad values of the past.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Rod Bruinooge Conservative Winnipeg South, MB

Do you know if they existed?

12:55 p.m.

Nishnawbe Aski Nation

Deputy Grand Chief RoseAnne Archibald

It's hard for me to say because I wasn't there.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Rod Bruinooge Conservative Winnipeg South, MB

However, you do know the good values, right?

12:55 p.m.

Nishnawbe Aski Nation

Deputy Grand Chief RoseAnne Archibald

Yes. Again, you're trying to be quantitative.