Evidence of meeting #123 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was infrastructure.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Michael Spence  Mayor, Town of Churchill
Merven Gruben  Mayor, Hamlet of Tuktoyaktuk
Jackie Jacobson  Councillor, Hamlet of Tuktoyaktuk
Don Rusnak  Thunder Bay—Rainy River, Lib.
Yves Robillard  Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, Lib.
Madeleine Redfern  Mayor, City of Iqaluit
George Kemp  Elder, Berens River First Nation, As an Individual

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

North?

4:20 p.m.

Mayor, Hamlet of Tuktoyaktuk

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

Okay.

4:20 p.m.

Mayor, Hamlet of Tuktoyaktuk

Merven Gruben

It's easier to go up if they don't want to let it go west or east.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

Yes, that's true.

4:20 p.m.

Mayor, Hamlet of Tuktoyaktuk

Merven Gruben

It's cheaper for you guys to get it from the Saudis here.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal MaryAnn Mihychuk

That wraps up our time. It's a good place to end.

The questioning now moves to MP Yves Robillard.

4:20 p.m.

Yves Robillard Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, Lib.

No, no.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal MaryAnn Mihychuk

No?

Is there anyone else on your side? How about Mike?

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Sure, why not?

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

I'll take some more time.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Actually, I'll give it to Hunter.

4:25 p.m.

Independent

Hunter Tootoo Independent Nunavut, NU

Thanks, Mike and Madam Chair.

I have a couple of things.

Maybe I'll start with you, Mike.

With regard to the support for the Kivalliq hydro and fibre link going north, KIA's David Ningeongan was here last week, appearing before us and pitching the project. You've been around a long time. I know that. We were both a lot younger in Churchill in those days.

The positive economic impact that a project like that would have, not only on the Kivalliq region, but also on Churchill and the communities along the line coming up in Manitoba....

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal MaryAnn Mihychuk

You have about two or three minutes.

4:25 p.m.

Mayor, Town of Churchill

Michael Spence

Okay.

Actually, the transmission line comes to our community. That's as far north as it goes. We were part of the Hudson Bay regional round table, when we sat down with the communities north of us and indicated that we needed to look at power transmission, along with fibre optic, going to the Kivalliq district. We've been a big supporter of it.

Basically, I think we're giving back. We're doing our part in terms of supporting what the Kivalliq district wants. Like I said, we have power, but I think it's critically important that, as neighbours, we continue to work together so that we can both benefit. Naturally, we both benefit by coming from the province of Manitoba. A regional partnership is where we're coming from. There's two-way trade, and that's where we'll get our payday. It's critically important that we work together.

4:25 p.m.

Independent

Hunter Tootoo Independent Nunavut, NU

Thank you.

Maybe I'll just ask my good friend Jackie. I know Larry talked earlier about the effects of climate change. I know some of the challenges of getting stuff by barge from Hay River up to the Arctic Ocean and our communities, including yours, with the low water levels on the Mackenzie River, and a lot of that has to do with climate change.

You're talking about having a port in Tuk and trucking stuff up there and shipping stuff out from there. Do you think that would be a much more reliable solution, with what's happening with the Mackenzie River?

4:25 p.m.

Councillor, Hamlet of Tuktoyaktuk

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Hunter.

Yes, it would be. It would be more strategic and more efficient, and there would be cost savings for sure, if you did that. The territorial government has assets there that are more than capable of doing that, too.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal MaryAnn Mihychuk

Thank you.

That wraps up our time. I want to thank you all for travelling so far to give us your views on Arctic policy and infrastructure needs, a snapshot of what's happening in your hometown.

We'll take a short suspension, and then we'll have our second panel for today.

Meegwetch.

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal MaryAnn Mihychuk

Welcome, and thank you for coming to our committee.

We have a guest on video conference. Welcome. Thank you for coming into Winnipeg from your community. I know that even that is quite a distance to come in.

We are studying Arctic infrastructure, and you're the second panel. Each of you will have up to 10 minutes to present, and after that we'll go into rounds of questioning from the MPs.

Excuse me?

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Cathy McLeod Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, BC

Madam Chair, I have a point of order.

I just have a quick motion prior to our panel starting. As you know, we have the Auditor General coming to do two chapters. We've had informal discussions, I believe, about the importance of having officials, both with Indigenous Services and with ESDC, being part of that panel on Wednesday. I would just like to make that a formal motion.

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal MaryAnn Mihychuk

That's about calling ESDC to the committee meeting for Wednesday.

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Cathy McLeod Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, BC

In partnership with the Auditor General's spring report...and to make it televised.

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal MaryAnn Mihychuk

T.J., go ahead.

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

TJ Harvey Liberal Tobique—Mactaquac, NB

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Technically, you can't move a motion on a point of order.

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal MaryAnn Mihychuk

You are correct, MP Harvey.

MP Viersen, go ahead.