That actually is a very good segue.
Thank you to the minister for coming.
When I started out here in Parliament, my maiden speech was on child welfare. The statistics are startling. In Manitoba, 87% of children who are taken are taken because of neglect or issues surrounding poverty. That means only 13% have actual allegations of abuse, and of that, only 12% have substantiated abuse in the province of Manitoba. Most children are not taken because of actual abuse; it's because there are major problems in how the system is dealing with poverty. I hope this starts a process in order to begin dealing with that problem, those 11,000 kids in care.
We talk about the laws. How are we going to determine when a law has been passed by an indigenous community? What constitutes an indigenous community? What constitutes an indigenous nation?
Maybe that's for the justice department. How are you going to determine that it is a nation?