As it notes in the preamble, the ongoing call for that funding is that it's sustainable, that it's needs based and consistent with the principles of equality in order for it to have long-term positive outcomes for our families and our communities. I think that says a great deal about where we need to go with that without attaching a dollar amount to it.
Again, yes, I would suggest that this needs to move from the preamble right into wording within the legislation so that we're all really, really clear that it's not just repeating things that have not been effective for us in the past.
We know that everything needs to shift, and we know it needs to shift into those preventative models. We can't determine the dollar amounts that need to be attached to that at this point in time, but if we look at what we're currently paying throughout our systems in each province towards keeping children away from their families and not providing support, and if we look at it not just based on what's happening within our child welfare system, but look at what's happening within our institutions, whether they're addictions facilities or correctional facilities, those are all results of the child welfare system. When you look at all the dollars that go into funding those services, those can all be generated in a different way toward prevention. You'll see a lot of different changes and outcomes for those other systems as well.