Evidence of meeting #29 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was young.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Louise Bradley  President and Chief Executive Officer, Mental Health Commission of Canada
Ed Mantler  Vice-President, Programs and Priorities, Mental Health Commission of Canada
Jennifer Ward  Director and Survivors Chair, Canadian Association for Suicide Prevention
Ed Connors  Director, Canadian Association for Suicide Prevention
Will Landon  National Youth Council Representative, Ontario, Assembly of First Nations

The Chair Liberal Andy Fillmore

Thank you, Dr. Connors.

The next question is from Mike Bossio, please.

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you, guests, for being here today and providing this valuable information. I apologize to you up front because I have a number of questions and I want to try to get through them. If I cut you off, I'm really sorry, but I want to try to get through them.

Can you tell me what per cent of the Mental Health Commission are indigenous members?

4:15 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Mental Health Commission of Canada

Louise Bradley

Do you mean on staff?

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Yes.

4:15 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Mental Health Commission of Canada

Louise Bradley

We have increased our numbers just recently. We're trying to get representation in each of our program areas. Currently I believe we have about four indigenous people on staff.

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

What about board members?

4:15 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Mental Health Commission of Canada

Louise Bradley

We have two indigenous board members.

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Out of how many?

4:15 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Mental Health Commission of Canada

Louise Bradley

The board is currently 14.

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

You're on the Canadian Association for Suicide Prevention. How many indigenous members are part of it?

4:15 p.m.

Director, Canadian Association for Suicide Prevention

Dr. Ed Connors

We currently have four.

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Out of how many?

4:15 p.m.

Director and Survivors Chair, Canadian Association for Suicide Prevention

Jennifer Ward

We're on a board of 15.

4:15 p.m.

Director, Canadian Association for Suicide Prevention

Dr. Ed Connors

There are 15 on the board.

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Is there an indigenous crisis team?

4:20 p.m.

Director and Survivors Chair, Canadian Association for Suicide Prevention

Jennifer Ward

Not that I'm aware of. One of the challenges that we had was finding appropriate services for the community in Attawapiskat that were able to connect with the native youth crisis line that operates out of B.C. They have a 1-800 toll-free line, and that was the resource that we were able to offer that was specific to native youth crisis.

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Right now you have no direct federal funding for your program. Are you aware of any federal funding program or provincial funding program that goes toward any of these mental health-related programs?

4:20 p.m.

Director, Canadian Association for Suicide Prevention

Dr. Ed Connors

There are. I couldn't name them all off to you at this point, but there are programs that are—are you asking specifically about indigenous—

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Yes. Yes, sorry. Specifically indigenous, yes.

4:20 p.m.

Director, Canadian Association for Suicide Prevention

Dr. Ed Connors

For mental health, the ones that I'm familiar with are ones that I consult with currently. There are programs like the Enaahtig Healing Lodge and Learning Centre, which is in the Simcoe Muskoka region. It's a fairly large organization. It has funding from the province as well as federally.

Organizations like that exist throughout the country.

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

We had some organizations come and speak to us. But, once again, the funding model is precarious at best. Here one day, gone the next. One-year program, five-year program.... There's really no long-term stable funding that has been dedicated to this area.

Would you agree with that?

4:20 p.m.

Director, Canadian Association for Suicide Prevention

Dr. Ed Connors

Yes.

I'm also a board member for the First Peoples Wellness Circle, which used to be referred to as the Native Mental Health Association of Canada. We did have some support from federal funding at one point, and then it was taken away.

And then, I also consult with the Thunderbird Partnership Foundation, which used to be NNAPF. It receives federal funding.

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Are there any programs that provide training for indigenous peoples? And once again, is it just a very precariously funded program? Are there any training institutions specifically for indigenous mental health workers, social workers, or nurses?

4:20 p.m.

Director and Survivors Chair, Canadian Association for Suicide Prevention

Jennifer Ward

The Mental Health Commission of Canada has indigenous versions of mental health first aid. So, that would be the first that comes to mind. LivingWorks offers both safeTALK and ASIST, which is applied suicide intervention skills training. They're working on adaptations of that model as well.

There's a suicide prevention program that's tailored and developed by first nations communities that operates out of the Centre for Suicide Prevention in Calgary, and it's called the River of Life.

The training is available, but it is expensive and requires someone on the ground to implement it.

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Most of the witnesses we've heard so far have all pointed to the issue around long-term stable funding for many of these programs, that it just doesn't exist. I see heads shaking, so I assume that you all agree with that, the underfunding of those programs.

There are two very quick questions, and I'm running out of time.

The Canadian Indigenous Nurses Association were here earlier this week. They pointed to the fact that we should be, from an education standpoint, starting at grades 3 and 4 to move indigenous students in the direction toward social, mental health, nursing, and medical areas.

Would you also agree with that statement?