That's a good question.
We just finished a two-day energy forum a couple of weeks ago in Vancouver. We brought people together. Minister Carr, the natural resources minister, was there, first time ever; great. Representatives from the provinces were there. First nations leaders were there, chiefs. Industry leaders from pipelines and from oil and gas companies were there. Environmentalists were there. Clean energy officials were there, as were CEOs from solar and wind. We tried to create a space and a table for dialogue. There are different interests, no question.
The comment about indigenous licence ties in to the duty to consult and accommodate. The indigenous licence ties in to free, prior, and informed consent within the United Nations declaration. That's what I'm referring to when I say indigenous licence. First nations people, because of their right to self-determination, are tied in. If that right is respected, that means they'll be able to say yes or no to projects. That's where it rests. We have to be involved.
The message was simple. Before you try to build anything—industry or provincial governments—build a respectful relationship with indigenous leaders and indigenous peoples. Build a respectful relationship before you build anything. That was the message.
This indigenous licence ties in with those two things, the duty to consult and accommodate. The crown has the obligation to do that. It's not industry; it's the crown's obligation. They have to do a better job of that. Right now industry is wondering what they should do, what the rules are. They don't know.
That's where that ties in—