Evidence of meeting #36 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was status.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Chief Perry Bellegarde  National Chief, Assembly of First Nations
Chief Denise Stonefish  Deputy Grand Chief, Association of Iroquois and Allied Indians, Assembly of First Nations
Francyne Joe  President, Native Women's Association of Canada
Viviane Michel  President, Quebec Native Women Inc.
Marilee Nowgesic  Special Advisor, Liaison, Native Women's Association of Canada
Cynthia Smith  Legal and Policy Analyst Coordinator, Quebec Native Women Inc.
Robert Bertrand  National Chief, Congress of Aboriginal Peoples
Jeannette Corbiere Lavell  Citizenship Commissioner, Anishinabek Nation, Union of Ontario Indians
Frankie Coté  Senior Manager, Engagement, Congress of Aboriginal Peoples

5 p.m.

Citizenship Commissioner, Anishinabek Nation, Union of Ontario Indians

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Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

So they are bona fide by your nation but not by the Indian Act.

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Citizenship Commissioner, Anishinabek Nation, Union of Ontario Indians

Jeannette Corbiere Lavell

Yes, exactly, that's what I said. We recognize that if you can trace your descendancy through one parent, on either side, then you are entitled to be registered as a member of the Anishinabek Nation, or E-dbendaagzijig, those who belong.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

Would you be appreciative if those whom your band recognizes as members of your band got status through that process as well? Is that something you'd be interested in? Is that something you are working towards?

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Citizenship Commissioner, Anishinabek Nation, Union of Ontario Indians

Jeannette Corbiere Lavell

Exactly. That's what we are aspiring to, because right now we are losing so many more of our members under the current system. This is one way of ensuring that we don't lose any more of our people. We cannot afford to lose any more of our members.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

You would be appreciative if, when you grant somebody membership to your band, the status would automatically come with that.

5:05 p.m.

Citizenship Commissioner, Anishinabek Nation, Union of Ontario Indians

Jeannette Corbiere Lavell

If that's what we are going to be working towards, it would have to be.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

Is that what you are working towards?

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Citizenship Commissioner, Anishinabek Nation, Union of Ontario Indians

Jeannette Corbiere Lavell

Yes, because we will have our own registrar. We'll have our own body of governance and leadership to determine all that. It has all been drafted already. I didn't have time to really get into it.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

You mentioned a band that has no more status members as of 2013.

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Citizenship Commissioner, Anishinabek Nation, Union of Ontario Indians

Jeannette Corbiere Lavell

That's under the current Indian Act.

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Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

Do they have a band and council then?

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Citizenship Commissioner, Anishinabek Nation, Union of Ontario Indians

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Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

They do?

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Citizenship Commissioner, Anishinabek Nation, Union of Ontario Indians

Jeannette Corbiere Lavell

I believe that because so many of their people had lost their Indian status over the years, it dwindled to the point where we have to continue to ensure that the grandchildren, or maybe even the great-grandchildren, of those original members are not lost. Bill C-31 made a slight change

I think that is what those other bills and Bill S-3 are going to do.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

So there's still a reserve there, and there's still a band and council that are operating it.

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Citizenship Commissioner, Anishinabek Nation, Union of Ontario Indians

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Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

Have any interesting conundrums come out of that or has it continued to function fairly normally?

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Citizenship Commissioner, Anishinabek Nation, Union of Ontario Indians

Jeannette Corbiere Lavell

It's still functioning right now, because it just happened.

They did a study, and that was the outcome of the study. With their current membership and the way things were going, they said that was going to be the end of the members who could be registered as status Indians, unless changes were made.

This is why we came up with our E-dbendaagzijig citizenship act. If they could trace their descendancy, their ancestry, to one parent on either side, they would be able to be recognized and be members of that community.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

The worry is that you would have a reserve with no people tied to it.

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Citizenship Commissioner, Anishinabek Nation, Union of Ontario Indians

Jeannette Corbiere Lavell

That is the ultimate worry. I believe there are several.

On Manitoulin, there's a reserve. It's a small one. There are no members there, but it's still a reserve.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

No one lives on the reserve anymore?

5:05 p.m.

Citizenship Commissioner, Anishinabek Nation, Union of Ontario Indians

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Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

Okay. That's interesting.

I'll cede my time, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Andy Fillmore

Thank you.

The next questioner is Romeo Saganash.

Go ahead, please.