Evidence of meeting #47 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was money.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Paul Thoppil  Chief Financial Officer, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development
Hélène Laurendeau  Deputy Minister, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

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Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal Toronto—St. Paul's, ON

Yes.

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Liberal

Darren Fisher Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS

—if no one else would like to have it.

Do I have any time left?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal MaryAnn Mihychuk

You have three minutes.

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Liberal

Darren Fisher Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS

I noticed that Mr. McLeod seemed like he was just ramping up, so I'd be pleased to provide him with my remaining three minutes.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal MaryAnn Mihychuk

MP Michael McLeod.

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Liberal

Michael McLeod Liberal Northwest Territories, NT

Thank you.

I have a couple of questions that I wasn't able to ask last time.

Regarding the money for specific land claims and self-government agreements, I know in the Northwest Territories we have some governments that are quite anxious to move forward. Some of them have self-government claims from almost eight or nine years ago, and with the previous government, they just got stalled, nothing moved forward, and it was a legal battle for years and years.

I was quite pleased that you chose to intervene and try to untangle the legal mess that we're in and commit to a collaborative approach to try to resolve it, and I think we're moving forward. We're not moving forward fast enough for any of us, I think, but I'm just wondering if some of the money that was committed here in this request is for the Northwest Territories and some of those government that are working to—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal MaryAnn Mihychuk

You have time for a short answer, about one minute.

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Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal Toronto—St. Paul's, ON

Go ahead.

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Chief Financial Officer, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Paul Thoppil

There are two amounts for the north, one for the indigenous languages for the Yukon self-governing nations, which you'll see in supplementary estimates (C), and then there is about $6 million that's moving from contributions to grants for the Nunavut land claims settlement. There's about $7 million that you're seeing through the supplementary estimates (C).

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Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal Toronto—St. Paul's, ON

But the rest is in the regular budget, Mike, not in the supplementary estimates (C).

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Liberal

Michael McLeod Liberal Northwest Territories, NT

Yes, but I was asking about this one. Okay.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal MaryAnn Mihychuk

You still have about 50 seconds.

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Liberal

Michael McLeod Liberal Northwest Territories, NT

My next question is regarding languages, and maybe you answered it. There's $1.6 million for French and indigenous languages in the north. Can you break that out for me? What is going for French and what is going for indigenous languages?

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Chief Financial Officer, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Paul Thoppil

It's all indigenous.

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Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal Toronto—St. Paul's, ON

Ours is indigenous.

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Chief Financial Officer, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Paul Thoppil

Ours is all indigenous, and the French you'll see in Canadian Heritage's supplementaries.

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Liberal

Michael McLeod Liberal Northwest Territories, NT

Well, it says French on it.

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Chief Financial Officer, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Paul Thoppil

Right. It's a horizontal label for across-government ministries, but the amount allocated for our ministry is just the indigenous languages portion.

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Liberal

Michael McLeod Liberal Northwest Territories, NT

Is that for all three territories?

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Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal Toronto—St. Paul's, ON

It's mainly in the Yukon.

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Chief Financial Officer, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Paul Thoppil

It's in the Yukon. It's Yukon first nations.

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Liberal

Michael McLeod Liberal Northwest Territories, NT

What are we doing wrong over here, that we're not...?

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Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal Toronto—St. Paul's, ON

Yes. We'll find out what's been—

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Liberal

Michael McLeod Liberal Northwest Territories, NT

Can you provide me the breakdown of the whole investment in languages?

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Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal Toronto—St. Paul's, ON

Yes, we'll find out. Also, as you know, as we began out of budget 2016, language and culture becomes part of schools and all of those things. We will be building language and culture into early childhood programs and into other areas, but we'll find out what's happening in the Northwest Territories for sure, Mike.