We try to use that rarely, and we only do it in circumstances where all other avenues have failed. That's usually because the first nations governance breaks down or there's an inability to address the circumstances that caused it.
The third and final pillar is sustainability, which is trying to get the first nations to never go back to it again and to move forward.
Here are some key statistics. There are about 142 incidents, with various levels of intervention. About one-third of the first nations communities have low capacity. Seventy of those 142 are of the most light recipient-managed action plans. Then there are about 62 first nations that have a recipient-appointed adviser. There are 10 first nations under third party management. By the end April, we expect that to move to eight. Essentially, about 1% of first nations communities are in third party management, which is a good sign. It's good to see that it's a declining number over the years. It used to be 15, 12, 10, and now eight, so it's going in a good way.
One of the things we are trying to do to fix the problem is look at a number of things, such as innovation, by, for example, engaging with the First Nations Financial Management Board, which is an indigenous institution to work with selected first nations and third party management to get them out of default. That's one example of things we're trying to do.