Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you to our witnesses, Mr. Obed in particular. Mr. David and I are familiar with each other as well. I've never met Mr. Argetsinger, but it is really a pleasure to have you here.
As someone who has spent the better part of a decade using the law in defence of Canadians' rights, particularly on the environmental side, I often look at legislation from the viewpoint of how it's going to be played out in the courts, what some of the eventualities would be. Of course, there are going to be some aspects around governmental behavioural change that are really probably most important, and one would hope, I think, that cultural change would be the first thing that's sought.
I want to ask your respective opinions as to where legislation like this may go in terms of test cases and what could occur. I don't suggest this in any negative sense, because I think test cases and pushing Canadian values and understanding through test cases is really important. It's a really important part of the dialogue. I think you three are well positioned to explore that with us, so I put that to you now.