You're pointing out something that I mentioned, which was having four audits and seeing that conditions have not dramatically improved. Over the last few years, about $4 billion has been spent. While it has gone to building homes and doing major repairs, it has resulted in very little meaningful improvement in conditions across all the communities.
When it comes more directly to mould, it was a recommendation we gave in one of our previous audits. We audited housing in 2003, 2006, 2011 and now in 2024. The mould strategy, I believe, was out of our 2003 or 2006 audit. We saw in 2011 that it was developed, but we made recommendations around it not being fully implemented or being fully followed. It was surprising to come in now and find out that no one could explain to us why they're not using it anymore.
There are a few things missing. It's not just about having a strategy; it's about knowing the extent of the mould problem. You need to gather data for that. We found that there was only one regional office in Alberta that was doing that for a while and then they stopped.
This is why my overarching comment about the passive approach the government is using is that it will not drive meaningful change. If you don't know the extent, how do you know what you need to fund and how do you know who needs help? I would chalk that up to needing a wholesale different approach to tackling this problem.