Evidence of meeting #110 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was water.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Martin Reiher  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Treaties and Aboriginal Government, Department of Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs
Valerie Gideon  Deputy Minister, Department of Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs
Keith Conn  Assistant Deputy Minister, Lands and Economic Development, Department of Indigenous Services
Catherine Lappe  Assistant Deputy Minister, Child and Family Services Reform, Department of Indigenous Services
Julien Castonguay  Director General, Strategic Policy, Planning and Information, First Nations and Inuit Health Branch, Department of Indigenous Services
Harold Calla  Executive Chair, First Nations Financial Management Board
Allan Claxton  Development Board Chair, First Nations Infrastructure Institute
Clarence T.  Manny) Jules (Chief Commissioner, First Nations Tax Commission
David Paul  Deputy Chief Commissioner, First Nations Tax Commission

7:45 p.m.

NDP

Lori Idlout NDP Nunavut, NU

Thank you so much, Manny.

I know that we've heard some great testimony that will lead to what I hope to be some great recommendations, which we'll submit to Parliament and that it will have to respond to as well, one of which is to remind them that we made this recommendation about monetization. We'll make sure to include that.

I want to end our evening on a positive note by asking David Paul to share with us. I was taken aback by how much success you have in Tobique with the businesses that you say have been able to emerge. I wonder if you can share some of those success stories of some of those businesses because of the efforts that have been made.

7:45 p.m.

Deputy Chief Commissioner, First Nations Tax Commission

David Paul

Yes, I'd be happy to. Thank you for the request.

For the bands that did participate in the tax agreements, as I said, literally thousands of jobs were created. Millions of dollars were generated.

In the first introductions to business for some of these communities—though, mind you, it wasn't perfect—the intent was to negotiate for even more tax room with the province. They were willing to do that, but they couldn't get past the fact that we built a casino on the reserve and they wanted that to be part of it. That one operation generated $14 million, 20 years ago, per annum, and this is in a considerably rural area. As I mentioned before, 80¢ of every dollar leaves a reserve within 24 hours. We were generating $14 million from one operation. We had hundreds of people employed. We were attracting buses from as far away as New Hampshire in the United States; Sydney, Cape Breton, in Nova Scotia; and the north shore of the St. Lawrence, from Quebec. They were coming to spend money within our community.

It's important to note also that, because of that dollar leaving the reserve, the benefit isn't just enjoyed by our community. There is a ripple effect to the economic benefit as it rolls out around because we leave the reserve to buy our commodities, our manufactured goods, so there's a sharing of the wealth. The whole province benefits from seeing 15 economically deficient communities change over to 15 communities enjoying prosperity.

7:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Patrick Weiler

Thank you very much, Ms. Idlout.

That concludes our panel. I just want to thank all of our witnesses for being here and for their patience as we worked through some technical difficulties. I really appreciated all of your testimonies today. As Ms. Idlout said, I'm sure it will feed into some really wise recommendations in this report. Thanks again for being here.

Before we adjourn, I just want to flag for members that on Monday we are going to be doing the studies on two different AG reports. We will have Minister Hajdu and Minister Fraser for the report on “Housing in First Nations Communities” and Minister LeBlanc for the one on the “First Nations and Inuit Policing Program”. Afterwards, we will have some time for drafting instructions. I mention that so you can plan accordingly.

With that, is it the will of the committee to adjourn the meeting?

7:45 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Patrick Weiler

The meeting is adjourned.