Indigenous and Northern Affairs Committee on Dec. 5th, 2024

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Jamie Schmale]

Are you questioning the integrity of the chair, Mr. Carr?

[Ben Carr, Liberal, Winnipeg South Centre, MB]

I am asking the chair, through the clerk—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Jamie Schmale]

I have a timer right here, Mr. Carr, and I am keeping as close an eye on it as I possibly can.

[Ben Carr, Liberal, Winnipeg South Centre, MB]

Mr. Clerk, I'm going to ask through you then, please, sir—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Jamie Schmale]

No, that's not how this works, Mr. Carr.

[Ben Carr, Liberal, Winnipeg South Centre, MB]

Oh, okay then, Mr. Chair. I am asking—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Jamie Schmale]

We trust your chairs at committee when it comes to time—

[Ben Carr, Liberal, Winnipeg South Centre, MB]

Mr. Chair, I'm asking on a point of order—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Jamie Schmale]

I've answered your point of order.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a point of order, Chair.

This is clearly disruptive.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Jamie Schmale]

Yes.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

It's intended to be disruptive. Let's get back to work. Let's get back to the work of this committee.

[Ben Carr, Liberal, Winnipeg South Centre, MB]

I'm sorry; I wasn't done my point of order.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Jamie Schmale]

I already ruled on that point of order, thank you. If you wish to challenge the chair, go ahead.

[Lori Idlout, NDP, Nunavut, NU]

On a point of order, there are too many people speaking. We need to be respectful of the interpreters.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Jamie Schmale]

Yes, absolutely.

I've ruled on that. If you wish to challenge the chair, there is a process for it.

[Ben Carr, Liberal, Winnipeg South Centre, MB]

I will challenge the chair.

[Michael Cooper, Conservative, St. Albert—Edmonton, AB]

This is a waste of time. You're running interference for Randy.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Jamie Schmale]

We'll go to a vote.

The challenge is.... Would you prefer...?

[Ben Carr, Liberal, Winnipeg South Centre, MB]

You said that you made a decision, Mr. Chair. If you haven't made a decision, then I have no challenge to make.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Jamie Schmale]

I have made decision that—

[Ben Carr, Liberal, Winnipeg South Centre, MB]

If you have made a decision—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Jamie Schmale]

The chair, as always Mr. Carr.... I know we have some time here. The chair in any committee has been responsible for the timing, whether it's been Mr. Weiler or me.

[Ben Carr, Liberal, Winnipeg South Centre, MB]

That's correct.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Jamie Schmale]

We have never had a problem with that. I don't anticipate there being a problem now, but now you are calling into question my integrity.