We know that Bill C-38, again, is the result of a court ruling. I mean, everything that happens is the result of a court ruling. What the federal government is proposing, in fact, is once again incremental justice.
I say that because this is about having the same rights as other women in the country, never mind men. We're just talking about having the same rights as women. What is the problem with the fact that there's a normalization of incrementally providing indigenous women with rights equal to other women? How is that perpetuating violence, even in programs that we could benefit from?