I was invited to participate in the board after the government acquired Trans Mountain. I raised the issue of my position with the financial management board for them to consider, and if they felt it was a conflict—because I was not for or against any project, but wanted to be in a position where first nations had the opportunity to have some input—then they shouldn't consider me. They concluded that they didn't think it was a conflict, and I accepted the position to be on the board.
I have to say, in fact, some of the matters that have been raised by indigenous communities have been considered by Trans Mountain. The pipeline route has been moved to accommodate some of their interests. Those kinds of matters have been taken up.
I live in an urban area. My community is from an urban area. I know that we all have electricity, we all have natural gas and we all drive cars. That has to come from somewhere.
Do cumulative impacts on the environment need to be considered? Yes. Do we need to move away from the carbon footprint? Yes. But it has—