When you talk about those numbers, though, in fairness, Minister, I don't think those little indigenous language radio stations in small remote communities were generating a whole bunch of ad revenue. They're just trying to survive, probably on grants, and probably, honestly, on fundraising in their own communities.
When you talk about those big numbers, I'm guessing you're using much larger numbers relative to the nationals, but not specifically to this northern aboriginal broadcasting component, these small, northern, indigenous language community radio stations and stuff. I think you're talking about a bigger picture, and I would rather you focus just on these.