When you read the current ATR policy, it now stretches for 59 pages. It includes a 13-page application form and typically requires first nations to provide a 20-page submission just to get their ATR submission started. The ATR policy sets very narrow, restricted categories under which Canada might consider adding lands.
I suggest to this committee, which we took up in our written submission, that if you're looking at restitution or lands back, there needs to be a much more positive policy. We do not think it's possible to simply adjust the current process or procedures and make progress. An entirely new approach needs to be put in place. Fundamentally, we suggest that a number of steps in the current procedures are getting in the way of progress and preventing a benefit for both first nations and neighbouring communities. That's particularly with framework agreement first nations, which have—