Indigenous and Northern Affairs Committee on Dec. 7th, 2023

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

It is to get the job done to make sure—

[A voice]

The interpreters can't keep up if two people are talking.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

I'm just going to interrupt for the point of order.

There is a point of order, and then we'll come back to you.

[Ben Carr, Liberal, Winnipeg South Centre, MB]

Mr. Chair, with the presence of the clerks, I don't think that a lecture to you on your role is necessary. I'm just wondering if, perhaps, at this point in time, calling a point of order with regard to the demeanour with which this is being addressed can be heard—I understand the perspective—and then we can move on.

[Bob Zimmer, Conservative, Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

We'll go to Mr. Zimmer, and then we'll come back to Mr. Viersen.

[Bob Zimmer, Conservative, Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC]

The member hasn't been in the House that long, but I will say that I've been a former chair, and what Mr. Viersen is saying is an accurate challenge. It's not the job of the chair to pick one side of the argument over the other. It's to facilitate the discussion.

To say now that we need to get things moving and to say sorry about the point of order.... It's a very legitimate point of order, and it needs to be addressed by the chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

Mr. Viersen, are you done? I hear your point, and I will continue to move through the review of this legislation.

[Arnold Viersen, Conservative, Peace River—Westlock, AB]

Mr. Chair, just with your indulgence, I'll go back to the one you deemed out of order—Ms. Idlout's amendment—if I could. Could you give her the floor and at least hear the logic that she was putting forward with that amendment?

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

I would say that if Ms. Idlout wants to raise her hand and ask for that, that's her right. It was her amendment. However, at this point, we have moved beyond that. We're now on clause 8. We're on CPC-3.2, which is your amendment.

I am willing to go to that point and have a nice, smooth—

[Ben Carr, Liberal, Winnipeg South Centre, MB]

Mr. Chair, I would just draw your attention to the fact that the bells are now ringing, I believe.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

They have just started.

With that, colleagues, we are at the bells. We can request unanimous consent to continue.

[Ben Carr, Liberal, Winnipeg South Centre, MB]

No, I don't give unanimous consent.

[The Chair, Liberal, John Aldag]

There is a no.

With that, we're out of time.

Thank you, colleagues. We will resume on Tuesday.

The meeting is adjourned.