Can I quickly speak to that point of order, Chair?
It happened to me earlier as well. There wasn't that little gap... I'm not saying that we're going to speak to everything here. We want this to move along and hopefully wrap it up.
At the same time, as Mr. Viersen was saying, it's immediate. When you say that you look around the room for people to talk, there's no opportunity. There's no question about whether anyone wants to talk. It's bang and then call the vote on the clause. I think that's what Arnold is saying.