Yes. What you heard from Mayor Bell is the same thing that indigenous housing providers across this country are challenged with. Access to those programs is cumbersome. The rollout is time-consuming. Some people were accepted three years ago and they have yet to see a groundbreaking. There's a multitude of reasons for that.
They're aware of this. I'm not saying anything to you that we haven't had a conversation about directly with Romy Bowers or directly with Minister Hussen. I've actually been tasked on a number of interviews and review panels with commentary. The reality is that I think this government is boxing themselves in.
This is not to be overly critical, but there is a need for governments to focus on reconciliation through direct work with first nations, Inuit and Métis leadership, but they have 100% excluded the urban in those conversations. You've just heard, through all of the witnesses, that there are capacity issues. So if this government were to say that we have....
I mean, we've asked my government here in B.C. for $15 billion over the next 10 years, if you look at my strategy, and that's what we need in British Columbia alone for urban indigenous people. I can't even imagine what the entire country is going to need.
I think what really needs to happen is this: You're going to need to create that national centre, sooner rather than later, led by indigenous leaders for indigenous communities.