I can only start by giving you an example and I'll be very brief about it.
Here in British Columbia we've seen a number of communities where there are no indigenous organizations to take the leadership and to deliver the programs. What we recommended is that there be partnerships. There are essential partnerships that need to be created if you're going to deliver targeted funding for targeted indigenous communities where there is not a capacity but there is perhaps another entity that does have that capacity so that there is mandated consultation and inclusion of indigenous at the table as the program starts to get rolled out.
We've seen it fail. Again, I'll reference the Goodacre report. It's not about blaming. It's not about pointing the finger, and it's not about accusations. It's about acknowledging that again anything for indigenous must be led by indigenous. If we don't have the capacity, then we need to work with indigenous people to help them gain that capacity and to ensure cultural and trauma-informed safety is always at the forefront of any programming. I'm happy to expand on that.