That's an excellent question. We were as puzzled as you are.
If you have 4,500 indigenous prisoners in federal corrections and you have only 139 beds, how come those beds are not full? It's the same with respect to the CSC-operated healing lodges, with the capacity of 250. When we looked at it overall, I think those beds were 75% occupied. We raised the question, why not 100%?
When we did some of the work that we did, we found that the healing lodges are wanting more residents. They are accepting on paper more residents. Unfortunately, Correctional Service isn't sending them.
There is now a really troubling trend. Minimum-security institutions run by corrections are now competing with healing lodges, which, by law, are considered minimum-security institutions. It's very unfortunate. Unless corrections is pushed to do more and to do better, the situation's going to remain the same. It's exactly what we found in 2013.
Hazel has visited so many healing lodges over the years.