What I can tell you is that if you look at, for example, the incarceration rate, which is way higher for indigenous people than for non-indigenous people, and you use that as a barometer to assess the successes and failures of our broad public policies, I would argue that if you were able to stop the trend—which has been linear and is getting worse year after year—and even reverse that trend in terms of the incarceration rate, you would find that you would have made gains on issues such as education, housing, health care, employment, anti-racism initiatives and so on.
I think the incarceration rate is probably a rough measure, but it speaks to all those areas that need to be addressed in the community.