Let me give you an example. Three weeks ago, I visited Edmonton Institution, which is a stand-alone maximum-security institution. I think it had, at the time, about 230 incarcerated individuals.
It is so dysfunctional that now they're basically running 12 separate subpopulations within that penitentiary. That means that none of those subpopulations can mix. It's like running 12 separate penitentiaries inside a penitentiary.
That puts extraordinary pressure on access to programs and services. For example, in Edmonton Institution, probably 70% are indigenous. There was no access to the prison industry, CORCAN, so they had no access to the vocational training that CORCAN is supposed to give.
There were only eight individuals who, three times a week, had access to what they call “pre-Pathways services”. That's eight out of 230.
When it comes to school, because you can't mix all the students together, they are lucky if they get school twice a week for two and a half hours, even though they would like to spend a whole day at school, just like anybody else, to try to upgrade their education.