There are a lot of fellas who are still maintained in medium security. A lot of them are not being reviewed to be transferred to healing lodges. There seem to be barriers every time they want to be transferred. They'll transfer from a medium facility to a Pathways facility, and finally they might get an opportunity to go to a healing lodge.
The criteria are very hard to access for some of the fellas and the women. That's an issue. I think the criteria need to be reviewed to take into consideration realistic criteria from an indigenous perspective, and not from a CSC type of perspective.