Yes, and I thought that would probably be the correlation. With the residential schools, people were taken from homes, removed from their families and not given any love. In fact, they were given all kinds of abuse. This was over several generations.
I have to push back, Dr. Zinger, when you say that it's been 20 years and we've seen no progress. How many years do you think it would take to undo generation upon generation of neglect and harm done to indigenous people at the hands of the justice system and governments? Do we just say that 20 years has been enough and stop throwing money at the situation?