It's very difficult to say across the board. Certainly we are hearing anecdotally of some positive stories about EDC and BDC stepping in to help out, for example, but I'm also aware that the finance committee is holding some discussions and hearings specifically on some of the financial issues, where some of these things will be brought out in more detail from that perspective. I think as you call your witnesses forward from the industry before this committee, you'll hear some real-time and very direct stories.
Last week I attended a half-day session where the Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters pulled together EDC, BDC, and some of the private financial institutions and manufacturers to discuss the measures that are being put in place, how effectively they are being implemented, and what the means are to access those measures. It's clear that there's still more work to go. Part of that dialogue was about making sure that people are aware of what's available and what the existing challenges are. One of the things that EDC emphasized, for example, is that in a number of cases they're actually having to work directly with the banks and the firms on a case-by-case basis to work out financing solutions, because there can be a lot of very particular circumstances, by firm, in the context of some of the larger organizations.
They're also doing some things at a sectoral level for autos and for the oil and gas sector, where there are some particular issues that they're addressing.