If I could quickly add something, it doesn't help the demand side much, but the silviculture case that Mark made is a good one. We can put people to work, including our loggers and harvesters, if we look at investments in intensive silviculture today. And that's not planting the trees, so to speak, that's tending the trees.
We've just released a silviculture strategy in British Columbia. It needs funding. If we can fund fertilization, spacing, thinning, those kinds of things, people can go to work, we increase the value of the product over time, and we reap that benefit down the road.
The federal government could step up to the plate with incremental silviculture funding today. It would help workers and help the industry.