That's perfect. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I also want to thank Mr. Lake for bringing up Sudbury, of course. I always like talking about my hometown. I had the opportunity to visit Penguin Automated Systems. I don't know if you're aware of Dr. Greg Baiden, but the stuff he's designing is also going to be used for mining companies and also in the oil sands.
As you mentioned earlier, when we're talking about Canadian manufacturing companies, companies like this have to look to other markets besides the U.S. We've seen many SMIs--small and medium-sized enterprises--become a growing force in Canada as an export-based economy. While many of them have been successful—and Dr. Baiden is one of them we can talk about—others have tried and failed. Maybe you can talk a little bit about how SMIs are doing in global markets—I'll offer this question to both of you—and about the particular challenges they face in this current economic climate.