Well, we are in a way. When we announced the C-17, Boeing agreed to buy two simulators from us. The value of the IRB, as I recall from my press release, was between $7 million and $8 million. So it's a beginning.
If I may continue from this point on, one of the ways the Canadian government has done well with the IRBs for the C-130J is when it decided to divide the contract. Instead of giving the whole $3 billion contract to Lockheed Martin and saying they should hire people and companies and come back to them with $3 billion worth of IRBs, the Canadian government decided that to make these aircraft, they were not going to ask Bombardier to develop a new aircraft for four C-17s. You don't start a new aircraft for that.
So they bought the aircraft, the C-130J, from Lockheed Martin but said that they would put the training up for competition. This way, the CAE-led team--again I come back to this--was able to win that contract after a full competition. If the contract had been given fully to Lockheed Martin, like the one for the C-17s, maybe they would not have chosen CAE. Boeing has a training arm in its company called Alteon. Maybe they would have said to us--to come back to what you're saying about innovation--that they would give contracts to a company in Canada to do all the seats, but they would do the simulators and the training with their American components.
I think that the best way to do very good IRBs is first of all to look at a way where Canadian companies can really compete in this, and not give it all to the prime company. It applied for the training of pilots for the C-130J. It's a base, and it should go on for other programs. It should also apply to maintenance training. Why is it part of the C-130J? Why will it be part of the fixed-wing SAR or the CH-47? Why don't we compete this part as well?
I know I am preaching for my own parish.
If you do it this way, CAE is the prime for the OTSP. That means there will be more jobs in Canada, more revenues, and more money spent here by our people. If the prime is in the U.S., then that's where the money goes. That's the value of being the prime in this.
This is another area in which we have to look in order to have good IRBs.