In fact we do work closely with our manufacturing colleagues. They have a loose association of energy-using industries. Actually, they're headquartered right across the hall on the same floor that the Canadian Gas Association is on. So we do work with them.
The main thing we've been doing together is pressing the federal and provincial governments to develop a more coherent perspective on energy, to develop what we call an energy framework. We think that's absolutely fundamental to getting the conditions right. We're on the same page on most of these issues and we compare notes and try to push it along.