I would like to add that the counterfeiting problem is important, but the real problem is the amount of manufactured goods that are coming into this country from China without a counter-balance--that is, manufactured goods going from this country to China. We believe that is where the energy has to be put.
The European countries, Japan, and many other countries are using their internal legislation and even their international trade laws to impose on China the obligation to buy more products if they want to sell. It's not the Auto Pact that we used to have, but there are mechanisms in place that the European Union is using with China. We believe, counterfeiting or no counterfeiting, we need to increase the pressure on China for China to import more manufactured goods from Canada.
China is making all kinds of products that are selling here, but they are not buying in Canada the equipment they use to make the cheap products. We could have good jobs in a highly skilled industry, the equipment industry. They are buying equipment from Japan to make cheap products to sell in Canada. That is the angle that I think we need to explore.