Again, I'm afraid I'm not an expert in policy abroad, but from what I see, they seem to have a systemic approach to everything. I had a minute with the former prime minister of Finland in Kyoto a couple of years ago at a conference, and I asked, how did you transform Nokia from a company that made tires in 1988 to the world's leading cell phone company now?
He said, we got our biggest company together with all the leaders of the country and we decided that in the future it would be better to be rich than to be poor, and the way to be rich would be to ship products that are worth dollars per gram rather than pennies per tonne, so that's what we did. And he said, it's our money, it's our country, and we did it.
I think that kind of bold approach is really what's needed. They created a system that was directed to create a certain set of outcomes.
I totally agree with Dr. Raymont that if you get the researchers working on the right issues, industry will jump right in. I think that's been the problem in Canada's innovation system. We've let our people.... Oh, let's not go there. I think it's important that researchers direct their energy to important problems.