Evidence of meeting #28 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was manufacturing.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Milos Jancik  President and Chief Executive Officer, Electro-Federation Canada
Dave Wood  President, W.C. Wood Company, Electro-Federation Canada
Eliot Phillipson  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Foundation for Innovation
Graham Taylor  Vice-President, External Relations, Precarn Incorporated
Iain Stewart  Director General, Policy Branch, Science and Innovation Sector, Department of Industry
Suzanne Corbeil  Vice-President, External Relations, Canada Foundation for Innovation
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. James M. Latimer

5:40 p.m.

Bloc

Paul Crête Bloc Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

It is a procedural motion, not a substantive one. It does not, therefore, require 48 hours notice.

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

My understanding is every single motion needs to be presented in both official languages and given a 48-hour notice. If you have a procedure rule that says that's not the case, I'd love to see it. I will look at it.

5:40 p.m.

Bloc

Paul Crête Bloc Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Ask the clerk, he interprets the rules. I was told that I was entitled to introduce it without 48 hours notice as it is not a substantive motion.

We are not trying to set a trap for you. We just want to avoid problems during the trip.

5:40 p.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

We could talk about this until the cows come home.

5:45 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

It's not a big deal; it's done all the time. I don't know why you guys are making a big deal out of it.

5:45 p.m.

Bloc

Paul Crête Bloc Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

He does not understand the problem.

5:45 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

It's just a formality. We do it all the time. I understand you guys are all new, but you guys should contact.... [Inaudible--Editor]

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

Can I confirm then, Paul, you're saying just for information gathering with the committee, you just wanted information gathering?

5:45 p.m.

Bloc

Paul Crête Bloc Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Yes.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

No motions and stuff brought up?

5:45 p.m.

Bloc

Paul Crête Bloc Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Yes, exactly.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

Then yes. In the spirit, yes, we'll go with it too. Yes.

5:45 p.m.

Bloc

Paul Crête Bloc Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Okay.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

All right.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you, Mr. Carrie.

Can I suggest again, we all knew this was coming, we knew I was presenting to the liaison committee. It makes the chair's job much easier if I have the motions in advance in both official languages. We can do the negotiating behind the scenes, and it's all taken care of. I appreciate the effort, but let's....

Mr. Masse.

5:45 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

Just one thing, Mr. Chair. I know where you're going with it, and I appreciate that suggestion, but in all reality, until this House of Commons gets its act together on rules in committee, and it's not the wild west with every single damn committee having different rules, we'll never have that problem fixed. We're trying to live up to the basic rules we've done over the last four and a half years, and the reason we have problems is that everywhere it's different. It's amazing to think we don't even know what's unanimous and not unanimous consent in a committee. That's a larger issue, but if we want to have a committee with structure and rules, we can then pass it on to other committees.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

If you have any suggestions, I'd be very pleased to receive them. I'm not disputing your point.

5:45 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

No, I know where you're going at too. That's part of the problem, it's always different.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Valid point. Yes.

The meeting is adjourned.