Yes. I would like to thank you. Obviously we don't represent the pulp and paper industry. We represent the Electro-Federation.
We've come up with a policy or at least what we believe to be changes to policy that impact all costs, and I think you're quite appropriately phrasing this as how do we control all costs. When we look at pulp and paper or any manufacturing, we need to understand all the costs involved. Energy is obviously one of those, but what we focused in on is how government can partner with industry, with manufacturing, whether it be small industry, large industry, or medium-sized industry, which is what I represent. And in our presentation, one of the things you'll note is that the largest cost to the major appliance industry, aside from materials, is actually taxes. We can talk about energy, but within our mandate, what we have come up with from our group and association is how we can control the tax cost and the differential in taxes that Canadian manufacturers are paying as opposed to what importers are paying, primarily those in Asia as well as in Latin America. But it is a way we can control costs and it is a way we can make the industry competitive and try to improve the competitive nature of both Ontario and Canada as a whole, and that's a lead role that the federal government can play.