I think that's what we're looking at, yes.
With the automobile sector, what's in their interest to invest money in R and D? I know what it is academically, basically, but what is it in terms of dollars? How can they value it? What are their numbers? Should they be putting in 2% or 4% or 10%? Let's say they decided on 10% but they have to reduce their costs. Would R and D be one of them because it's not profitable? How are they supposed to value that?