I believe there have been productivity increases in manufacturing in the last couple of years. I believe your own interim report suggests something like 5.6%. And there have been investments. They vary from manufacturing sector to manufacturing sector, but many of our members have made significant investments in manufacturing and improved productivity in implementing lead manufacturing. To say that they haven't been doing it is not accurate, but certainly a lot more needs to be done. We haven't closed the productivity gap.
It's also fair to say that when you're looking at the tax burden, you're looking at the total tax burden, not only the federal taxes. The whole discussion can't only be at the federal level; it also has to flow through to the provincial level. Yet we still have a very significant productivity gap, depending on the sector, and we speak to this; it's in the range of 20%.