I don't think it is complicated. When you look at the charts on investment, which I will hand out to you, if you take the pulp and paper sector, for example.... I believe you come from the Gaspé, down from Rivière-du-Loup; you have a paper mill in that town, F.F. Soucy. One of the paper machines has been there since the 1950s or 1940s--for a long time. There are a number of paper machines that are operating in eastern Canada that were built in the 1920s. What else is there today that was built in 1920 that is manufacturing a product and still running?
It's not complicated, gentlemen. They're going out of business. The big global companies have a lot of choice. They look at the map and ask where wood fibre is inexpensive or where labour is accessible, or what the power rates are or where their markets are, and they move. The capital moves. People are not spending the capital in Canada because it has not been a competitive place to invest, for a whole lot of reasons. It's not just rates and depreciation.
The government, though, can set the tone. It can create the environment that says this is a good place to invest. Canada today is not a great place to invest, in this particular sector. This is true. You see it in the automotive sector with the folks from Ontario moving the jobs to other parts of the U.S. or other parts of the world. We have to wake up, as a country. The leadership of the country has to really wake up and say, by God, we're not going to let the jobs keep disappearing. They are going. Regardless of how good the numbers are--today, gas and oil and the mineral sector and those things are bumping up the average--the people from Ontario, the people from Quebec, and the people from Atlantic Canada are feeling the pressure enormously. I don't think we have seen the damage yet, but I think it is serious.