I would very much like to get more information on that program and how it works. My view is that with the changing economy there's research and development of new product in the marketplace. We do have industry associations where Quebec foundries and Ontario foundries do meet. There's a Canadian Foundry Association, and one in the United States, a broader one, that's North American-wide, that we belong to. That's probably the best forum to bring together people in that industry and have them look at issues related to the federal government and its support of industry and how we go forth.
I think they're relatively effective groups. I've met a number of foundry people from Quebec and Ontario, and every time we get together we learn. The interesting thing is in most cases we don't compete against each other. We're exporting to the U.S. or exporting elsewhere in Canada and we don't seem to bump heads. It's a cooperative relationship.